Curse

Tender Wolf · Feb 18, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

So I was buying rubies and sapphires yetersday to get my Vabbian armor (finally got it!), and I calculated how much money I'd need. Well, after I bought the first one (out of like 11 each), the price jumps up about 300g. I have no idea why this is necessary. Now I don't think all rare materials do this, but a lot do. And it's annoying and not everyone in the game is made of many. Some of us saved just enough to get the stuff we need, and when the price jumps like that, we have to somehow make more. So I think the prices should stay the same as marked.

Steboy93 · Feb 18, 2008, 05:50 PM // 17:50

The prices change though supply and demand, so if someone is buying from the trader then their stock decreases thus making the price rise. It works the opposite way too, so if someone is selling to the trader then their stock increases therefore making the price fall.

It was just unlucky for you that the price increased as you were purchasing, perhaps buying from players may have been a better option as most people sell for less than the trader price.

Jamster · Feb 18, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Supply and Demand.
You want to buy loads of rubies, therefore the price goes up, because there ends up being less of them O_o
You can't stop that really, and all rare materials would do this if they were in such high demand (such as you were buying 11 rubies).

Earth · Feb 18, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

You were just having bad luck like Steboy said. Sometimes the price will change while buying, sometimes it won't.

No need to change it just because you had some bad luck this time.

quickmonty · Feb 18, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

I have seen prices change while selling (rare and common materials). Most of the time, if you wait a few minutes, the price will revert back to what it was.

MirkoTeran · Feb 18, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Some of us saved just enough to get the stuff we need

And you need Vabbian armor?

And oh, /notsigned

Tender Wolf · Feb 18, 2008, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MirkoTeran

And you need Vabbian armor?

And oh, /notsigned

I was referring to the things we need to make it...

And this happens all the time, not just with rubies and sapphires. Jade and amber do the same thing.

Kanyatta · Feb 18, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

Jade and amber do the same thing.

I haven't seen Jade or Amber price jump in about a year, personally, they've always been hanging around the 300g ea mark.

It's supply and demand, what you're suggesting is an entire reworking of the economy. Someone isn't sitting behind a desk going "Rubies should go up 300g now!" and then presses a button and it happens, it's basically almost an entirely player-controlled economy.

Orange Milk · Feb 18, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Super double posting WOOT

Anyway,.....

Yeah, what them guys said. When I plan on buying stufff from the trader, due to the fact that I'm lazy and don't feel like sitting around spam in trade chat for what I need all day, I buy them here and there to prevent the influx in price jump. Like one or two Onyx a day to make destroyer weapons, not 10 at once. The same thing as what happened to you happened to me when I bought 10 at once. Since doing it "onesies twosies" style thats never happened to me since.

[email protected] · Feb 18, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

thats why i check the price of ecto... buy some when they drop to 4.8K, then resell to players for 5K when they go back up to 5.5K at trader...

MMSDome · Feb 18, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Yea and in real life we should keep all oil prices the same to, i mean they are only materials we need to make our cars work right?

Loviatar · Feb 18, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

[QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

So I was buying rubies and sapphires yetersday to get my Vabbian armor Some of us saved just enough to get the stuff we need, and when the price jumps like that, we have to somehow make more.

that is a NEED??

yet another whine from tender

sell them all to drive the price back down then buy them

[DE] · Feb 18, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I'm in your thread. Farming the +1's.

If the economy for materials weren't based on supply and demand... well, that'd be pretty screwed up.

Dronte · Feb 18, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by The Phantom

I'm in your thread. Farming the +1's.

Seconded ^

To op: deal with this, price changes depending on supply and demand like in real life.. No problem with that.

MagmaRed · Feb 18, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Learn how the game's economy works before asking for it to be changed.

/unsigned

Tender Wolf · Feb 18, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

that is a NEED??

As I said in a previous post, need means the materials required to make the armor or item...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Learn how the game's economy works before asking for it to be changed.

/unsigned

Oh really? Sure, when everyone keeps spamming how much the economy sucks as it is. I wonder why...

Arkantos · Feb 18, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

I think I've said this before in one of your threads, but I'll say it again. Learn supply and demand. /notsigned

NamelessBeauty · Feb 18, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Prices jump up and down depending on Supply Via Demand curve.

Note: Demand curve goes down. Supply curve goes up.

As more and more people buy (demand goes up), suppy will be more scarced thus will be more expensive (Supply goes down.)

Thus, as you buy more and more, prices will be higher and higher as well.

If you want to prevent this, you can do 1 of the 2 things or maybe both:

- Use collector for exchanging rare mat. Check wikis for recipe.
or
- Buy from real people. Will take time but there are people who sell these at lower price and the price won't go up as you buy more and more.

That's why you can only buy 1 rare mat at a time. Changing this will make mat = fixed price. Thus won't be realistic. Think about ectos. If supply becomes more and more (people farm more and more) but price still stay at the same level, the game will be ruined because people will just farm and noone use it but sell it to trader for a fixed price. Yes, that mean ectos will be the medium of real players sell to the game developer. It's stupid.

Two April Mornings · Feb 18, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I think I've said this before in one of your threads, but I'll say it again. Learn supply and demand. /notsigned

Quote+1

/Unsigned +1

Loviatar · Feb 18, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tender Wolf

As I said in a previous post, need means the materials required to make the armor or item...

if you didnt NEED the armor you would not NEED the materials now would you?